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INTRODUCTION
Gina: Hi everyone, Gina here! This is Absolute Beginner Season 1 , Lesson 16 - Come to Finland With Me!
Paula: Hei! Minä olen Paula. Tervetuloa FinnishPod101.comiin. Welcome to FinnishPod101.com
Gina: In this lesson, you’ll learn to invite someone to go somewhere with you. We will also review the three locative cases we have learned.
Paula: This conversation takes place at home. Jussi and Emmi are making some plans, and Jussi invites Helen to join them. They will be speaking in standard Finnish.
Gina: Let's listen to the conversation.
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Gina: Emmi seems to be a regular at the local public library.
Paula: That’s true. In lesson 12 she said she reads a lot.
Gina: What are public libraries like in Finland?
Paula: I think they usually have quite good collections. Most of them have audiobooks, music and DVDs in addition to hard-copy books. Some are even experimenting with ebooks. But they also try to provide other services, and kind of become a second living room.
Gina: Oh? What kinds of services do they have?
Paula: Well, for example, at times when children are on vacation from school, there may be special events for children. And many libraries have regular story times for small children, or book clubs where people can discuss the books they are reading. And a few libraries have library dogs, too.
Gina: Dogs? What do dogs do in a library?
Paula: They’re specially trained dogs that are used as professional listeners. If you have problems with reading, you can read aloud to the dog without fear of being criticized. I’ve heard they’re quite popular.
Gina: Wow, that’s very interesting. Ok, now let’s have a look at the vocabulary.
KEY VOCAB AND PHRASES
Gina: Let's have a closer look at the usage of some of the words and phrases from this lesson.
Paula: The first word is ‘jokin’, and it basically means “an unspecified thing”. In the dialogue, it was used together with the word ‘elokuva - jokin elokuva’, or “a movie”, “some movie”. But it can also appear alone as in ‘Etsitkö jotakin?’ which is “Are you looking for something?”
Gina: But the case endings aren’t added quite the same way as usual.
Paula: That’s right. They actually come in the middle. That’s because the ‘-kin’ at the end of the word is actually a particle that originally didn’t belong to the word, so all case endings come before the ‘-kin’ part. So ‘jokin’ becomes ‘jotakin’, ‘jonkin’, ‘jossakin’, ‘jostakin’ and ‘johonkin’ in the various cases we’ve learned so far.
Gina: You don’t need to memorize these now - just remember that the endings come in the middle. What’s the next word?
Paula: The next word is ‘mielelläni’, which means “I’d like to” or “with pleasure”. The grammar involved here is a bit too complex for this lesson, but you should note that you can only use this about yourself.
Gina: You mean, when you’re replying that you’d like to do something?
Paula: Exactly. You can’t use it of other people. Just think of it as “I’d like to”, and you’ll pretty much know how to use it.
Gina: Okay. Now let’s move on to the grammar.
GRAMMAR POINT
Gina: In this lesson, we're going to learn to invite someone to go with us somewhere. We’ll also review the locative cases.
Paula: The phrase to use is really quite simple. All you need to do is say ‘Tuletko mukaan...’ and then add the place you’re going to in the illative case.
Gina: And which one was the illative case?
Paula: It’s the one that’s translated as “into” in English, and it usually has a long vowel and ‘-n’. For example, the illative of ‘kirjasto’, or “library”, is ‘kirjastoon’.
Gina: Okay. So how do you say “Would you like to come along to the library?”
Paula: Tuletko mukaan kirjastoon?
Gina: Listeners, repeat after B.
Paula: Tuletko mukaan kirjastoon?
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Gina: How would you then ask, “Would you like to come along to the park?”
Paula: “Park” is ‘puisto’, so it would be ‘Tuletko mukaan puistoon?’ Note that this is quite a matter-of-fact question, and a more literal translation would be “Will you come along”. So if you want to be very polite, you might want to spice it up a bit. But it’s just fine among friends and colleagues.
Gina: OK. Listeners, it’s practice time. How would you say “Will you come along to the school?”
Paula: Just start with ‘Tuletko mukaan’ and add ‘koulu’ in the illative case.
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Paula: Tuletko mukaan kouluun?
Gina: How about “Will you come along to Finland?”
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Paula: ‘Tuletko mukaan Suomeen?’ Though I don’t really see our listeners asking this question a lot...
Gina: Well, who knows – they might meet a really wonderful person from Finland, and that person will ask them! Wouldn’t it be tragic if they lost the chance of a lifetime, because they didn’t know what they were asked?
Paula: (laughs) Okay, I suppose you’ve got a point. But let’s have a quick review of the locative cases we’ve learned in previous lessons.
Gina: Okay. Which word in the dialogue was in the inessive case meaning “in”?
Paula: ‘Kirjastossa.’ The case ending is ‘-ssa’. Emmi said ‘Käyn kirjastossa’, or “I’ll drop in at the library.”
Gina: What about the elative case meaning “from”?
Paula: ‘Videovuokraamosta.’ The ending is ‘-sta’. Jussi asked ‘Haenko videovuokraamosta jonkin elokuvan’, or “Shall I get a movie from the video rental store?”
Gina: Okay. And what about the illative, meaning “into”?
Paula: There were two words - ‘videovuokraamoon’ and ‘kirjastoon’. Jussi said ‘Tuletko mukaan videovuokraamoon ja kirjastoon?’ or “Will you come along to the video rental store and library?”

Outro

Gina: Okay, that’s going to do it for this lesson. Thanks for listening, everyone, and see you next time!
Paula: Hei hei!

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FinnishPod101.com Verified
Monday at 06:30 PM
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Hi listeners!

Do you often rent movies or go to the library?

FinnishPod101.com Verified
Monday at 01:39 PM
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Hello Barbara,


Thank you for your good question!

Yes, Usually, the verb "käydä" and then followed by a place is in the inessive case like "käyn kaupassa", "käyn kirjastossa", or "käyn koulussa" (just visit) or spending a short time doing the designated action of the place such as "käyn suihkussa" or "käyn saunassa"

But when you are completing ( at the moment or past time) a school, education or any other training the object changes very often into partitive mode. This is the only rule I know.

"Käydä" word has many other meanings as well but this comment section is limited space for comprehensive grammar teaching. Anyway, I hope this helps.


Let us know if you have any questions.

Cheers,

Aarni

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Barbara
Tuesday at 08:31 PM
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Dear Aarni,

I have a similar question to Zach's question below. In this dialogue, they are using "käyn" together with the inessive case ("käyn kirjastossa"), but in lesson 10 (Can your Australian uncle speak Finnish?), it was used with the partitive case ("Käyn suomalaista koulua"). How do you decide which case to use with this verb?

Thank you very much for clarification!

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Monday at 02:42 PM
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Hello Artur,


Thank you for your question! Actually, both of your sentences are correct. In Finnish, it can be said in the adessive form too as it means possession (having something). Another example: Auto talvirenkailla (A car with equipped winter tires) Hope this helps a bit.


Let us know if you have any questions.

Cheers,

Aarni

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Artur
Monday at 06:00 AM
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I was wondering why the form "kirjastohuone pöydillä" is used for "library room with desks"?

Woudn't form "Kirjastohuone pöytien kanssa" be better?

It is a bit confusing.

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Thursday at 07:15 PM
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Hei Anna,


Kiitos lauseistasi! Ne ovat aivan oikein! Hienoa! 👍


Let us know if you have any questions.

Cheers,

Aarni

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Anna
Saturday at 09:08 PM
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Isoäitini on kirjastonhoitaja ja pidän lukemisesta.Käyn usein kirjastossa, jossa saan olla rauhassa.

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Tuesday at 03:10 PM
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Hello Zack,


Thank you for your question. The illative form is "kirjastoon" and the inessive form is "kirjastossa", indeed. Two different types of sentences, going somewhere and visiting inside, "käydä" verb makes the difference. Hope this helps. 😄


Let us know if you have any questions.

Cheers,

Aarni

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Zack
Sunday at 06:14 AM
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Why does the dialogue use the illative in "Tuletko mukaan videovuokraamoon ja kirjastoon?", but the innessive in "Minä käyn samalla kirjastossa". Is it because of the verb?

FinnishPod101.com Verified
Thursday at 02:11 PM
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Hello Kate,


Thank you for your question.

"Jokin" means something whole, measurable, device or happening etc. as "jotakin" means something unmeasurable, fabric, liquid, feeling etc.

Hope this helps.


Let us know if you have any question.

Cheers,

Aarni

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Kate
Wednesday at 03:16 AM
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Can the difference between jokin, jotakin and jonkin be explained? Thanks.