Hello Listeners! Have you ever tried to play ice hockey?

Hei Barbara,

Thank you for your question! "Eikö sinun ole pitänyt vain rentoutua?" can be said but better to say " "Eikö sinun pitänyt vain rentoutua?" If it is in conditional mode "Eikö sinun olisi pitänyt vain rentoutua?" then it matches better and "olla" verb conditional form changes to the sub-verb the better way. Hope this helps a bit.

Hei team,

would it also be correct to say "Eikö sinun ole pitänyt vain rentoutua?", and the affirmative sentence would be "Sinun olet pitänyt vain rentoutua."?

So "Eikö sinun pitänyt vain rentoutua?" is kind of a short version which omits "olla" from the past tense?

Thank you!

Hello Shanti,

Thank you for your question.

In this sentence; "Eikö sinun pitänyt vain rentoutua?" The Active Past Participle form is used. Why it is used here? Because the other person surely told earlier to the other one that he is going to rest but that did not happen. That's why the question is in the Active Past Participle form. To learn more about this form, please contact your teacher.

Let us know if you have any questions.

Cheers,

Aarni

Team FinnishPod101.com

Hi, in the conversation they are talking about why Heikki is not resting at home this week (present). But why is it that 'pitänyt' is used here instead of 'pidä' in the sentence "Eikö sinun pitänyt vain rentoutua?"?

Kiitos!

Hello M,

Thank you for your question! "Etkö nuku-kaan vielä?" This suffix has been used to emphasize, why one is not sleeping yet against expectations. Hope this helps. 😄

Let us know if you have any question.

Cheers,

Aarni

Team FinnishPod101.com

In the lesson notes there is an example sentence that says "Etkö nuku (kaan) vielä?". What's the difference between "Etkö nuku vielä?" and "Etkö nukukaan vielä?"? Is it the singular you vs the plural you, or is it something else?

Hi Corinna,

Thank you for your question.

Mekin täällä Suomessa pelaamme lätkää (kiekkoa) koulussa. 😄 So, you got it all right!

It is same here in Finland. You can say only "pelata kiekkoa" (to play hockey) and everyone understands what you game mean. 😮

Word "vasta" means " just" or "very recently or only now."

"I just came from school" "Tulin vasta nyt koulusta." Another example: Nytkö vasta tulit koulusta? (Did you come from school only now (late coming)?)

"Kiitos vaan (vain)" means actually just "thank you." It is kind of street language (quite common though) and it can be somehow translated as " I just want to thank you (for something....)"

If you have any questions, please let us know.

Thank you.

Aarni

Team FinnishPod101.com

Mekin (Not sure if that works) pelaamme lätkä koululla ("Koulussa"? InEnglish both "In school" and "At school" would be acceptable in this context; not sure if it's the same in Finnish.) täällä Kanadassa. :) My old school even has its own arena; kids play hockey and skate there for gym class all the time in winter. (We Canadians are funny, though; we have different kinds of hockey - ice hockey, floor hockey, field hockey -, but if we just say the word "hockey", we're referring to ice hockey. If we're talking about a different type of hockey, like floor hockey, we'll say "Floor hockey". :P)

I'm still getting used to the way "Vasta" works. :P And I also had another question about "Vaan"; I know it means "Just" or "Only", but I see it used in sentences like "Kiitos vaan," or something like that. Same with "Jo"; I know it means "Already", but I seem to see/hear it in places I wouldn't expect to, like "Sillä heräsinhän jo tunti sitten." Why exactly are those words used in situations like that?

Hi Brian,

Thank you for your question.

In Finnish language, When you want to say you have to do something or must do something, you have to use a special sentence construction in Finnish. For this, you have the possibility of three verbs: täytyä, pitää and olla pakko. All three verbs express necessity. Olla pakko is the strongest necessity, pitää the weakest.

In this case, the word "pitää" is in negative form.

Negative

Genitive + ei tarvitse + infinitive

Finnish English

Minun ei tarvitse jäädä tänään ylitöihin. I don't have to stay and do overtime today.

Sinun ei tarvitse lukea monta paperia. You don't have to read many papers.

Hänen ei tarvitse lähteä työmatkalle Kiinaan. She doesn't have to leave on a work trip to China.

Meidän ei tarvitse tehdä lumitöitä pihassa. We don't have to do snow shoveling in the yard.

Teidän ei tarvitse muistaa soittaa. You don't have to remember to call.

Heidän ei tarvitse ostaa silmälasit They don't have to buy the sunglasses.

Anjan ei tarvitse tulla mukaan. Anja doesn't have to come along.

The object in the negative sentence always has to be in the partitive.

Finnish English

Eikö minun tarvitse varata lippua? Don't I have to reserve tickets?.

Teidän ei tarvitse muistaa jokaista sanaa. They don't have to remember every word.

Sinun ei tarvitse ostaa televisiota. You're not obligated to buy a television.

Marjan ei tarvitse syödä lääkettä. Marja doesn't have to take the medicine.

If you have any questions, please let us know.

Thank you.

Aarni

Team FinnishPod101.com

Hei, in the lesson notes there is an example:

"Eikö sinun pitänyt vain rentoutua?"

"Weren't you supposed to just relax?"

Shouldn't it be "Etkö" (in second person "you")? Not "Eiko" which is (he/she)?